Newsfiend
06-18-2009, 07:52 AM
Imnothere wrote:
Before I get heated about this I want to say thank you Ngreth for replying and taking some time out to look into this. BUT to anyone defending Ngreth and to Ngreth himself, you didn't verify it can drop on live servers he checked the drop tables and he logged onto a live server to see if the NPC were up that don't mean anything for them actually dropping them. IF the mission is not required then I have killed about 120-150 of the borns in the past week, times that by all the others that have started killing them on there servers. Someone should have gotten a belt by this point if it is attainable on live servers.
As to this item being way overpowered. o.O are you serious? a 90 second duration 30 min reuse is over powered? Hell I'll bet its like the guardian clickie and effects the mobs too. Is it useful? absolutly. is it overpowered? No more then the Guardian 1 clickie which is a helluva lot more common.
Now I understand you got way to much to do and way to little time in which to do it. But can't you kick this over to QA? Isn't there job to verify any bugs and to simulate them? Cause numbers dont lie 1 drop in almost 2 years is not a indication of rarity it is a indication of bugged content. All I am asking for is to have the dropability (is that even a word? lol) of this item tested by you guys and then for someone to come here and tell us, it is bugged or it is dropping properly. I don't think that is to much to ask for since the whole 1 year expansion cycle was sold to the players as a way to help get bugged content fixed
There is a command I can run that shows all drops that that NPC thinks it can drop. I ran it, on live. The NPCs think they can drop it. If this command shows it, the NPC really does have a chance to drop it.
Here is an edited example of the table:
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Requesting loot table for '(Sorry not telling http://www.mapfiend.net/eq/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif )'
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] (Sorry this item gives away the NPC name) (######)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Black Spirit Thread Cape (#39147)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Belt of Hidden Daggers (#39150)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Scrykin Channeling Wand (#39153)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Emerald (#10029)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Peridot (#1002http://www.mapfiend.net/eq/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Malachite (#10015)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Fallen Shard of Relic (#39156)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Cape of Echoes (#39155)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Dark Spiritbone Belt (#39154)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] (Sorry this item gives away the NPC name) (######)
The only other method is a chain repop and track all drops during the repops. Doing this makes the zone unusable for hours, and has been known to crash the zone box (which would then punt hundreds of players... zone boxes cover multiple zones are allocated on them to spread the load of players, so it is almost guaranteed to have around 1/13th of the server population on it)
More... (http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=151353&post_id=2219075#2219075)
Before I get heated about this I want to say thank you Ngreth for replying and taking some time out to look into this. BUT to anyone defending Ngreth and to Ngreth himself, you didn't verify it can drop on live servers he checked the drop tables and he logged onto a live server to see if the NPC were up that don't mean anything for them actually dropping them. IF the mission is not required then I have killed about 120-150 of the borns in the past week, times that by all the others that have started killing them on there servers. Someone should have gotten a belt by this point if it is attainable on live servers.
As to this item being way overpowered. o.O are you serious? a 90 second duration 30 min reuse is over powered? Hell I'll bet its like the guardian clickie and effects the mobs too. Is it useful? absolutly. is it overpowered? No more then the Guardian 1 clickie which is a helluva lot more common.
Now I understand you got way to much to do and way to little time in which to do it. But can't you kick this over to QA? Isn't there job to verify any bugs and to simulate them? Cause numbers dont lie 1 drop in almost 2 years is not a indication of rarity it is a indication of bugged content. All I am asking for is to have the dropability (is that even a word? lol) of this item tested by you guys and then for someone to come here and tell us, it is bugged or it is dropping properly. I don't think that is to much to ask for since the whole 1 year expansion cycle was sold to the players as a way to help get bugged content fixed
There is a command I can run that shows all drops that that NPC thinks it can drop. I ran it, on live. The NPCs think they can drop it. If this command shows it, the NPC really does have a chance to drop it.
Here is an edited example of the table:
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Requesting loot table for '(Sorry not telling http://www.mapfiend.net/eq/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif )'
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] (Sorry this item gives away the NPC name) (######)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Black Spirit Thread Cape (#39147)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Belt of Hidden Daggers (#39150)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Scrykin Channeling Wand (#39153)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Emerald (#10029)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Peridot (#1002http://www.mapfiend.net/eq/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Malachite (#10015)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Fallen Shard of Relic (#39156)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Cape of Echoes (#39155)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] Dark Spiritbone Belt (#39154)
[Thu Jun 18 06:39:11 2009] (Sorry this item gives away the NPC name) (######)
The only other method is a chain repop and track all drops during the repops. Doing this makes the zone unusable for hours, and has been known to crash the zone box (which would then punt hundreds of players... zone boxes cover multiple zones are allocated on them to spread the load of players, so it is almost guaranteed to have around 1/13th of the server population on it)
More... (http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=151353&post_id=2219075#2219075)